Detroit Black
AppleDetroit Black
Origin/History
Supposed to be of Canadian origin, from the neighborhood of Detroit, Michigan (Warder). Downing groups it with the synonyms Crimson Pippin, Grand Sachem, Black Detroit, and Washington Pearmain. Warder notes that fruits presented as Detroit Black and as Detroit Red are so very much alike in all respects that they are not worth considering distinct, though he allows that the Red variety may be distinct, as it keeps later.
Tree
Not described in source.
Fruit
Size
Large to very large (Warder, Downing). Elliott, describing this variety under the name Grand Sachem, likewise calls it large.
Form
Warder describes the fruit as conic and angular. Downing and Elliott both describe it as roundish and distinctly ribbed, with Downing adding that it is irregular in its outline. The two characterizations — conic and angular vs. roundish and ribbed — are in tension; both accounts agree on the presence of prominent ribbing or angularity.
Stem
Very short (Warder).
Cavity
Wide and wavy (Warder).
Calyx
Eye small, open (Warder).
Basin
Deep, abrupt, and folded (Warder).
Skin
Warder describes the surface as very smooth, shining, deep red shaded, almost black in some specimens, with no striping. Downing describes it as smooth with deep, dingy red over the whole surface — characterizing it as "a showy, large, dark, blood-red fruit." Elliott (under Grand Sachem) calls it dull red. Warder's "shining" and "almost black" characterization contrasts with Downing's "dingy" and Elliott's "dull," suggesting some variation in finish or possible source-sample differences.
Dots
Numerous, minute, indented, gray (Warder).
Flesh and Flavor
Warder describes the flesh as whitish, tender, breaking, and juicy, with an acid flavor and poor quality, rating it second to third rate. Downing and Elliott both describe the flesh as white and dry, with Downing adding that it is without much flavor — though he rates it Good, while also calling it "rather coarse, and scarcely worth cultivation." The flesh texture is in direct conflict: Warder says juicy, while Downing and Elliott say dry.
Core and Seeds
Core wide, closed or open, clasping the eye; seeds numerous, angular, brown (Warder).
Season
September and October (Warder). September (Downing, Elliott).
Uses
Kitchen use and drying (Warder). Downing considers it "scarcely worth cultivation," despite rating the flavor as Good. Warder rates quality as second to third rate.
Subtypes/Variants
Warder treats Detroit Black and Detroit Red as effectively the same variety on account of their close resemblance, but notes that the Red may be distinct because it keeps later in the season.
Other
Downing's overall assessment: "A showy, large, dark, blood-red fruit, but rather coarse, and scarcely worth cultivation." Elliott's entry for this variety appears under the synonym Grand Sachem without cross-referencing Detroit Black by name.
Book Sources
Described in 3 period pomological works
USDA Nomenclature (1905)
From W.H. Ragan, Nomenclature of the Apple, USDA Bulletin No. 56
Leading name changed from Detroit Black.
Nursery Catalog Sources
Found in 1 catalog (1894) from Oregon
- Woodburn Nurseries , Woodburn, Marion Co. , Oregon — 1894 — listed as Black Detroit
View original book sources (3)
— John A. Warder, American Pomology: Apples (1867)Detroit Black. DETROIT RED?—GRAND SACHEM.
Supposed to be of Canadian origin, in the neighborhood of Detroit, Michigan. I have put these two names together, because the fruits presented as Black and as Red Detroit are so very much alike in all respects that it is not worth while to consider them distinct.
Fruit large to very large, conic, angular; Surface very smooth, shining, deep red shaded, almost black in some specimens, no striping; Dots, numerous, minute, indented, gray.
Basin deep, abrupt, folded; Eye small, open.
Cavity wide, wavy; stem very short.
Core wide, closed or open, clasping the eye; Seeds numerous, angular, brown; Flesh whitish, tender, breaking, juicy; Flavor acid, poor; Quality second to third rate; Use, kitchen and drying; Season, September and October.
The Red variety may be distinct, as it keeps later.
— A.J. Downing, The Fruits and Fruit Trees of America (1900)Detroit Black.
Crimson Pippin. Grand Sachem. Black Detroit. Washington Pearmain.
A showy, large, dark, blood-red fruit, but rather coarse, and scarcely worth cultivation.
Fruit very large, roundish, distinctly ribbed, and irregular in its outline. Skin smooth, deep, dingy red over the whole surface. Flesh white, rather dry, and without much flavor. Good. September.
— F.R. Elliott, The Western Fruit Book (1865)Grand Sachem. Large, roundish, ribbed, dull red ; flesh, white, dry. September.